The Wier/Weir family Crest

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Wier Family Genealogy

Genealogy is really a side thing for me.  I've never put much effort into it, in part because there were enough other people in the family who were already fulfilling that role.  But when I do get into it sometimes, I enjoy it because, even if it is far from being an exact science, it can be fun at least to muse about what might be.  My patriline makes such musing easy, as there is reasonably good documentary evidence for major events in my ancestors' lives going back a good half-millennium, and beyond that good enough evidence to make comfortable conclusions for a further millenium.  It's also nice that there are enough Wiers (or Weirs, Wears, Wares, Vares, etc.) ultimately stemming from Scotland that at least three books have been published on the subject ["The Ten Tribes of Wier", "Wier-Creekmore Genealogy", "Wier-Britt Genealogy"], and a couple of other handy webpages.   Since there are much better sources already on the web  (notably this one and this one), this will be just a precis.

       

The first attestation of the name Wier (or more appropriately the de Ver(e)) is from the eleventh century.  They were originally a Norman noble family that lived in the eponymous town Ver-sur-Mer along the English Channel, very near Juno Beach where centuries later UK forces would make their famous D-Day landing in the Second World War.  One Alberic de Vere, who is said to descend from Charlemagne's sister on his father's side, but is certainly a descendent of Charlemagne on his mother's side, crossed the channel at the time of the Norman Conquest with William and died in 1080.  He along with his descendents and known dates are summarized below:
Me and my family at the 11th-century parish church in Ver-sur-mer



ALBERIC de VERE (also called "Aubrey"), a descendant Charlemagne's sister, came from Normandy to England in 1066; his son
  AUBREY de VERE II (1062 - 15 May 1141) of Hedingham Castle, Great Lord Chamberlain of England, married Adeliza (Alice) de Clare; their son:
  AUBREY de VERE III, 1st Earl of Oxford (1110 - 26 Dec 1194) m. Alice of Essex; He was succeeded by his eldest son,
BALTREDUS de VERE (born circa 1100), witnessed a charter of King William the Lion of Scotland circa 1165. ("10 Tribes of Wier" by Wier incorrectly states he was a secretary to King Malcom IV); Baltredus was succeeded by his eldest son:
WALTER de VERE (born circa 1130); whose son
RADULPHUS ("Ralph") de VERE (born circa 1154); witnessed charters for William the Lion; was captured with King William in 1174 in Battle; died at end of Alexander II's reign; whose son was:
THOMAS de VERE (born by 1246), from whom all the Weirs and Wiers of Scotland are said to descend; witness, 1266, for the monastery of Kelso; his son:
RICHARDUS (Richard) de VERE who was proprietor of the lands and the barony of Blackwood, circa 1296; the baron of Blackwood is often called the ancestor of ALL Weirs and Wiers of Scotland; Richard's son:
THOMAS de VERE/WER/WERE (apparently the Thomas de Vere who was the laird of Stonebyres Castle in 1300, according to TALES AND LEGENDS OF THE UPPER WARD OF LANARKSHIRE,  published in 1860);  he was the father of:
BUAN WERE  born in the beginning of Robert III's reign, the son of Thomas de Were, and was the father of:
ROTHALD (Rothaldus) de Vere/WEIR OF BLACKWOOD, on record in 1398;  Bailie of Lesmahagow; had a charter confirming his father's ownership of Blackwood, 1400; usually styled "first laird of Blackwood"; father of George and Thomas
THOMAS WERE/WEIR second laird of Blackwood  (c1432), father of  Robert and Ralph (who m. Marie Sommerville in 1647);
ROBERT VERE/WEIR of Blackwood born about 1430, father of
THOMAS WEIR of Blackwood, born about 1460 who married 1483 Aegidia Somerville, daughter of the third Lord Somerville; had son
DUNCAN WIER, (born circa 1490, Perth, Scotland), lived at Wierholm, Lanarkshire, near Glasgow. Died in Holland. (1st one to live there?)(son of Thomas Weir?)
REVEREND MALCOM WIER born circa 1516; died at Geneva, Switzerland; married Miss Wyseart, daughter of the Laird of Kirkcaldie and sister of George Wishart; reputed son (says William S. Wier in "10 Tribes" and "The Wier-Britt Genealogy").
DAVID WIER was a guildsman and his guildmark was the same as the crest of the Weirs of Blackwood; a hand holding a battleaxe. He was closely related to Ralph Weir/Wier of Blackwood. DAVID was the father of
JOHN WIER / JAN VYER of Antwerp, circa 1645; father of
Dr. JOHN WIER (not the one who married Miss Cleaves); (W. S. Wier says he was 1st-cousin of Reverend John Wier who went from Scotland to Northern Ireland, 1643) resided in Bruxelles; married Janet Ferguson  ("1653", "1670"?) "whose children returned to Scotland"
JAMES WIER b. "1683" (or earlier?) m. Margaret Agnes O’Marra
THOMAS WIER born (said in some family records to have been born in) 1708. Married (probably about 1755-60) ELIZABETH FAULKNER born probably about 1740. She was the daughter of "Squire" (William?) Faulkner, "A farmer who lived at the Waterside of Londonderry." His given name is uncertain. These dates indicate that Thomas could have been born as late as 1740-40. It is possible that the original handwritten record said 1728 but was misread as 1708. The same early family source which said he was born 1708 said his father James was born in 1683. Some charts drawn by the family of Thomas Jr. in the 1860s seem to show Thomas Sr. as the first child of James. Others seem to indicate he could have been the youngest child.;
THOMAS WIER born 1763. Married Mary Withrow; Greenwood, South Carolina.
DAVID STUART WIER, born  17 September 1805
THOMAS DABNEY WIER (Col.), who fought for Mississippi in the Civil War, and whose war diary is still preserved;
THOMAS PERCY WIER, Sr., B. 11-11-1882, d. D. Feb 1968; Along with his brother Robert W. Wier and eight other siblings, founded Wier Longleaf Lumber Co. in East Texas, and for whom two small towns, Wiergate and Bon Wier, are named.
THOMAS PERCY WIER, Jr., Born  10 June 1919, Died 1 July 2002; who attended Rice University and received his doctorate in chemistry in 1943 His thesis discovered the first known method of electroplating aluminum.
THOMAS PERCY WIER, III
THOMAS RANDAL WIER
*Some data available, but haven't had time to input.

Alberic I's father did not have the surname Ver; he was the son of Alphonso Ghesnes, the son of Miles, the son of Varue, the son of Deomedes.  Alberic's mother Katherine of Flanders has a much more certain pedigree, as she is the descendent of Berenger II, King of Italy, Alfred the Great, King of England, and ultimately of Charlemagne, Emperor of the West.  If that is so, if we allow ourselves to be a bit (or a lot) credulous, we can push the genealogy back very, very far indeed. Though note that what follows is highly speculative and is probably apocryphal in whole or in part:

 NERO CLAUDIUS DRUSUS GERMANICUS (38 B. C. - 9 A. D.) married ANTONIA MINOR (36 B.C. - 37 A. D.), whose son:
Emperor TIBERIUS CLAUDIUS DRUSUS NERO GERMANICUS (10 B.C. - 55 A. D.), married JULIA AGRIPPINA MINOR II (15-59), whose daughter:
GEN(U)ISSA (~50) married King ARVIRAGUS Gweirydd (d. 74), son of CYNFELYN of Britain; their son:
MARIUS (d. 125), whose son:
COILUS (d. 170), whose daughter:
ATHILDIS married MARCOMIR IV (d. 149), whose son:
CLODOMIR IV (d. 166), married HASTILDA, daughter of the 'King of Rugy'; their son:
King FARABERT (d. 186)
King HUNNO (d. 213)
King HILDERIC (d. 253)
King BARTHERUS (d. 273)
King CLODIUS III (d. 298)
King WALTER (d. 306)
King DAGOBERT (d. 317)
CLODIMIR V (d. ~337)
RICHIMIR II (d. 350) married NASTILA, whose son:
THEODOMIR (d. 360)
CLODIUS V (d. 378)
DAGOBERT I (d. 389), whose son:
GENEBALD (d. 419), married ARGOTTA, whose son:
PHARAMOND, King of Westphalia (d. 427) [of Shakespeare fame], married ARGOTTA, whose son:
CLODIUS Critinus (~395-447/449) married BASINA (b. before 398), whose son:
SIGIMERUS I, Bishop of Auvergne (~419-?), married TONANTIUS Ferreolus (~420-?) [a female, despite the name], whose son:
FERREOLUS de Moselle, married DENTERIA, whose son:
ANSBERTUS of Moselle (~500-570), married BLITHILDIS of Soissons (520-570), daughter of CLOTAIRE I, King of Soissons (499-561); whose son:
BODEG(E)ISEL (~540-601), 588 m. ODA the Suevian; 
their son
:
St. ARNULF of Metz, (13 August 582 - 16 August 640), patron saint of Brewers; m. DODA (586-?), whose son:
ANSEGISAL (605-678), Mayor of Austrasia (r. 632-638), married St. BEGGA (613-698), daughter of St. PEPIN of Landen; their son:
PEPIN II of Heristal, Mayor of Austrasia and Neustria (635/640 - 16 December 714), whose second marriage was to Alpais Alphaida (b. 654), producing a son:
CHARLES MARTEL, 'the Hammer' (23 August 686 - 22 October 741), victor of the Battle of Poitiers, whose son:
PEPIN III, the Short, (~714 - 24 Sep 768), Mayor of Neustria 741, King of the Franks 747-768; married ROTRUDE of Austrasia (690-724), whose son:
CHARLEMAGNE (2 Apr 742 - 28 Jan 813/14), whose son:
LOUIS I of Aquitane (10 Aug 778 - 20 Jun 840) married HILDEGARDE (758 - 30 Apr 783), whose son:
CHARLES II of France (15 May 823 - 6 Oct 877) married JUDITH of Bavaria (~800 - 19 Apr 843); whose daughter:
JUDITH of France (844- after 870), who married BAUDOUIN I of Flanders (837/840 - 879), whose son:
 BAUDOUIN II of Flanders (~864 - 10 Sep 918) married ELFRIDA of England (~868 - 920), daughter of ALFRED the Great, King of England ; whose son:
ARNULPH ARNOLD I of Flanders (~889 - 27 Mar 964) married ADELAIDE of Vermandois (910 - 10 Oct 960), whose son:
BAUDOUIN III of Flanders (~933 - 1 Nov 962), whose son:
ARNULPH ARNOLD II of Flanders (~941 - 30 Mar 987) married ROSELE SUSANA of Italy (~945 - 26 Jan 1002), daugher of BERENGER II, King of Italy; their son:
ARNULF IV of Flanders (? - ?), who married an unknown woman, siring:
KATHERINE of Flanders, whose son was Alberic de Vere

So, how many of these people are simply made up, out of thin air? Well, many of these people have well-documented histories in various period sources.  This is true for all the crowned heads of the eighth and ninth centuries (hence the links), as well as to a lesser extent a number of noble families, such as for St. Arnulf, Charles Martel, or the counts of Flanders.  But as far I'm concerned, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone between Pharamond and Genuissa is entirely made up. They may in fact have existed, but it's very unlikely that we'll ever have good corroborating evidence for them. I suspect they are the product of Carolingian apologists looking for (and making up) antique grounds on which to found their dynastic claims to empire. Another problem is that even when you have relative bushiness, suggestive of something there, there are sometimes conflicting, equally bushy accounts, as the following shows:

MARCOMIR of Toxandria (220 - 281), Frankish Chief; whose son:
GONOBAUD IER of Toxandria (245 - 289), Frankish Chief; whose son:
RAGAISE of Toxandria (270 - 307), Frankish Chief; whose son:
MALERIC IER of Toxandria (295 - 360), first king of the Franks in Toxandria, whose wife was a Gaulish woman from Belgium; whose son:
MELLOBAUDE of Toxandria (320 - 376), Frankish King of Worms in Germany; whose son:
RICHIMIR of Toxandria (350 - 384), m. ASCYLA (352/355 - ?); their son:
THEODEMIR MAGNUS (370/374 - 28 August 414), Frankish Chief, m. VALENTINA JUSTINA (371 in Italy - 397 in France); their son:
CLOVIS the Riparian (398 - 448), aka Chlodion le Chevalu, m. (H)ILDEGONDE de Cologne (375?/399 - 450); their son:
CHILDEBERT of Cologne (420/430 - 483), a.k.a. Chlodebaud; King of Cologne, m. AMALABERG(E) (435 - 478); whose son:
SIEGBERT the Lame (455 - 508/509), King of Cologne, r. 496-508 
CLODERIC of Cologne  (477/480 - 509),
King of Cologne (r. 508-509)
aka the Parricide, 'married to an Agilolfingian'; whose son:
MUNDERIC of Cologne (500-532), pretender to the throne 
of Austrasia, m.
ARTHENIA/ARTNENIA/ARTHEMIA
(500/505-?); their son:
BODEGISEL I, m. PALATINA; their son:
BODEGISEL II 'Dux'- 588 m. ODA the Suevian; their son:
St. ARNULF of Metz, b. 13 August 582, d. 16 August 640, patron saint of Brewers; m. Doda
ANSEGISAL, Mayor of Austrasia (r. 632-638), married BEGGA, daughter of St. PEPIN of Landen; their son:
PEPIN II of Heristal, Mayor of Austrasia and Neustria (635/640 - 16 December 714), whose second marriage was to Alphaida, producing a son:
CHARLES MARTEL, 'the Hammer', 23 August 686 - 22 October 741, victor of the Battle of Poitiers, whose son:
PEPIN III, the Short, Mayor of Neustria 741, King of the Franks 747-768, whose presumptive daughter:
REDBURGA (?), who married Ecgberht King of the English, who was for a time in exile at Charlemagne's court...

At this point, the pedigree vanishes into obscurity, and it is not altogether clear whether Redburga was Charlemagne's sister or his neice, or even his sister-in-law. Be that as it may, what of the claim that Alberic was descended from Charlemagne's sister?  We can do little more than guess on this point, and genealogy is famous for its inconsistencies and outright fraud.  However, we may borrow some methodological principles from textual exegesis to make a more educated guess.  By the principle of locutio difficilior ('whichever reading is most obscure or difficult is most likely to be original in a text'), a claim to be related to Charlemagne's sister is more likely not to be invented by later generations than a claim to be related to Charlemagne himself, since everyone and their dog wanted to be (and in fact probably is) related to Charlemagne, but who wants to be related to his sister, whose very name is in doubt?